OBAMA=LIAR.
OBAMA=HYPOCRITE.
OBAMA=FLIP FLOP.
OBAMA=FAKE.
OBAMA=FRAUD.
OBAMA=CON ARTIST.
OBAMA=CROOK.
OBAMA=COWARD.
OBAMA=GUTLESS.
OBAMA=PHONY.
OBAMA=XEROX MACHINE.
OBAMA=JUST WORD.
OBAMA=OSAMA.

obama is starting to talk like dubya…….makes sense considering his supporters have been acting like dubya's supporters for months now…..

and he did not flip flop on Iraq!!! He said today what he has been saying all along

McEnd is full of it

First they criticize his stance, then they try to say he changed it and criticize that? Please. McCain's camp has nothing to say about the thoughtful mitigation of ideas after he's done so many 180s without good data to base them on.

Apparently he can't read his own positions. I thought he was quite clear the troops are coming home right after inauguration day. Which is it, dude?

You anti-war, anti-Bush Lefties must really be enjoying watching Obama move to Bush's position on this subject. Enjoy!

He is such a slimey politician! Is this the kind of change he wants? Say one thing to win the nomination and then change when you have it in the bag? Sorry, this is not change, politicians have been doing it for years, your not pulling the wool over EVERYBODY'S eyes. Just the liberal sheep. The conservative sheep voted Bush in twice, mesmerized by his Rove written speeches and fear mongering, now the liberal sheep are mesmerized by Obama's "change" (LOL) and his "teleprompter/preacher sounding" speeches. Oh and don't forget about fist bumping! Is that the new Macerana?! That alone should get him elected! How about Britany Spears as VP??! Possabilities are endless in our dumbed down society. Can't anyone think for themselves anymore? Open your eyes folks.

Well, should anyone be suprised. He is for change after all.

What's the big deal? Obama hasn't flip-flopped yet… he's just saying he's open to making adjustments to his plan. Now, if you want to see an example of flip-flopping, look at McCain's stances on Bush's tax-cuts.

If you believe the 16 month statements you are even sillier than Obama thinks you are. Get with it folks. He lied to you and he knew he was doing it. Remeber when he ranted against Hillary for saying a measured and safe withdrawl? sounds like exactly what he is now saying. this man is nothing new…no new change…no new attitudes and he sure as hell won't bring the party much less the country together. It is ok Obama fans you can now admit it you were sold a bunch a crafty speaches(lies) to win the primary ….Now he will run to the center….and lose. Oh by the way, when Bill ran(and won…twice) he already was in the center. This Obama will stoop so low to win the white house….Look out Oprah…after 20 years he will throw you under the bus too.

Nearly every one of his stances has "changed" since he became the democratic nominee. All to pander to the independents so he can win the election. Is that really "new politics" or the "same old"?

In fact, he's becoming more like Bush.

John McCain can't read. He must have been part of the no child left behind program that was underfunded and didn't get off the ground.

This is ridiculous. I want a President who 1) recognizes the need to start getting out immediately 2) will listen and adapt to conditions and reports from generals. That is, was, and always has been Barack Obama. He was saying his line "careful getting out as we were careless getting in" throughout the primary season.

It is clear that the media just wants to "trap" him into saying something contradictory. They want this race to be tight in order to keep ratings up, so right now that means trying to "get" something on Obama.

Commies will vote for McCain-Let there be no constitutional rights, let big brother invade our homes all in the name of dictatorship.

Patriotic American's will vote for Obama-Let the constitution be adhered to, and not ignored.

Once again the McCain camp makes a false accuataion and the media goes along with it as if it was a fact. It's just like when the McCain camp said that Clark was attacking McCain's milarty experience when all he was saying was that getting shot down is not a qualification to be president after the host, Bob Sheffer made a comment about Obama never being shot down. If this is the way that it's going to go for thje next four months then Obama doesn't stand a chance. Please report the facts and not waht the McCain camp tells you are the facts. The media is who cost Gore and Kerry the elections because the Repulbicans are good at twisting words and then the media just goes and runs with them

Obama '08

obama!

He needs to tell the people HOW he intends to just that and the reasons why? We did not spend money for a cause greater than ourselves to only walk away and leave the Iraq buckle and return to civil war. We demand it!

Flip flop flip flop. I wonder how many people voted for him just on his anti-war stance. Under the bus.

Whatever.

Barack is a smart man. He is not a Lyndon Johnson. We all remember what Lyndon Johnson did during the Vietnam war. Obama will have the troops home and he will make sure that Iraq will not be another South Vietnam. McCain wants to bring an "honorable end" to the Iraq war. Richard Nixon said that same thing about Vietnam war in 1969 that John McCain is saying about the Iraq war in 2008. McCain will probaly expand the war.

CNN CAN YOU PLEASE LEAVE THIS GUY ALONE ??? hE HAD BEEN VERY CLEAR SINCE THE BEGINNING !
HE DID NOT CHANGE ANYTHING AND HE DID NOT FLIP FLOP…

OBAMA 08 & 12

This is silly. Of course as President Barack Obama will have to refine his IRAQ policy if his 16 month plan pose security risks to US soldiers!! HOWEVER, he will institute a change in direction in IRAQ policy and get our troops out of IRAQ much quicker than MCSane!!

Republicans are seriously crazy. It doesn't matter WHAT Obama has to say, they'll twist his words until they are unrecognizable. The last paragraph in this story is downright laughable.

Did I get this right?

The goal is withdrawl in 16 Months.
If anything unforseen changes the strategy may be refinded.

–> Sounds like a good plan to me.

Just another flip flopper . Hillary is really starting to look better every day. Now he has no one to mock the policies .

Well you voted for the liar….now all you male Obamaer's get ready to grab your bags…..its off to the Middle East for you clowns.

Oh, and FYI, if you McCain Morons didn't get it, he said 'he's not changing his position". Unlike your candidate who changes EVERYTHING after getting it wrong the first, second and even final time.

Call it like you see it McCain,McShame ,McInsane ,McBush ,McLooser ,McLost it and that he has including his temper.

If you really want this war over, your candidate is Nader or Bob Barr, not Obama or McCain.

Now this IS really fun! The used car salesman doesn't know how to get out of Iraq! Where is all that self-righteous talk about Hillary Clinton dragging her feet and McCain not being willing to leave??

Only yesterday, I was mused on this very blog how long it would be before he backed away from the biggest promise of all. And here it is. I am tickled pink! Obama will say ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED!!

"Oh, this is not different than what I've been saying all along…" SURE.

I wouldn't vote for this greedy liar if you paid me. Come to think of it, I bet the Obama cultists would pay anybody. He certainly has enough money to foot the bill. Your money, not mine.

I think the Obama followers should rush to their nearest Army recruiter and sign up NOW! Barack needs YOU! JOIN THE ARMY TODAY!
My question: how many more things does he have to say before America wakes up?

Americans' mind span is so short that everything has to be in black and white. And that is not a good sign.
It is a sign that the general education is substandard, when the mind cannot handle nuanced positions that DOES NOT alter a basic position.

A good leader has to have a plan.
And a good leader will allow for refinement of plan if and when events dictate an alteration.

Obama has a definite plan for LEAVING Iraq.

Bush-McCain has no plan for STAYING in Iraq indefinitely, even for a hundred years.

Having a definite plan does not mean that adjustments are not allowed for UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES!
Having a good plan means making allowance for adjustments. All worthy enterprises are run that way.
That is why there are what are called 'cost overrun'; one may not know everything about the future.

A good leader DOES NOT stubbornly 'stay the course' when unforeseen circumstances demands adjustment to plans.

Obama is sending a message that says, "Getting out of Iraq".
That will cause the Iraqis to 'man up' and reach an accord among themselves.

McCain wants to go and be in Iraq for 100 years.

McCain wants the war; because that's all that is in his blood — WAR without end!

This is okay not bad

Amazing. Obama was right about Iraq from the beginning and has consistently called for the withdrawal of US troops, yet he is being badgered with "questions" about his position on Iraq? Other than the McCain campaign, who is raising specific questions about Obama's stance on Iraq?

Bottom line: Obama completely trumps McCain on foreign policy. Obama was and is right about Iraq; he is actually took action regarding loose nukes (which Bush and Kerry expressly agreed was the gravest threat to the US back in 2004); Obama's proposals to negotiate more openly with unfriendly foreign governments (which were first derided by many) have been adopted by the Bush admin with regard to North Korea; the list goes on.

I like John McCain but he belongs in the Senate, God bless him. He just doesn't have the judgment or temperament to be President.

That release from the McCain campaign is too precious! I wonder if they even considered what Obama actually said, or they just set their email to "send" their statement at the time Obama was scheduled to wrap his news conference.

I see that McCain's new head guy learned well from his old mentor, Karl Rove: repeat something (false) enough times, and it becomes the truth. At least the scared-of-their-shadow mainstream media will accept it as the truth, because they know otherwise that the Limbaughs and other conservative attack-dogs will scream "liberal media!!"

As Obama says, he has not "reversed himself."

I just hope that the American public is smart enough to tell the difference this time.

Obama has been the most consistent not just in this campaign but over his political career. The media is just trying to make news of nothing and McCain is trying to create news of Obama changing to save his dying campaign.

Whatever will get the votes….

Pretty much status quo there, Mr. "Change."

PUMA!!!

I guess he has to do this twice in one day because there are crazy people who don't get that he is not a flip-flopper. But it's okay for McCain to flip-flop on torture, gas prices, etc

Right! Sure! Another flip - flop in the works!! How many are they now. I lost count. He reminds me everyday why I left the Democratic Party. 16 month phased withdrawal. Remember that for future reference. Iraq would be the only issue I would possibly vote for him on. The problem is - I don't trust him to do the right thing and get our troops out of Iraq or healthcare, or jobs or anything. He has no experience plus I am concern on his ties with the hate America culture. Then there is McCain?

Spineless empty suit with yet another broken promise. I clearly remember during the primary season Obama touted his "16 months" combat troops pull out from Iraq and now he is changing that also. Liar - he never said that his timeline was "always premised on makig sure that our tropps were safe." That's a pure lie!

People: How can you believe a word that comes out of this guy's mouth? Unbelievable.

That's all well and good barrack; but this is not the time to be unclear about where you really stand on issues. you need to be firm now more than ever in these next 4 months. I have supported you from day one, but i hope i am not beginning to see worring signs..such as flip flopping on where you stnd on issues; because you WiLL be called out if this becomes the case……remember how you got here! ..and you will be quickly forgotten if you do not succeed in Niovember myfriend. God's speed.

This title should read: Obama to refine his stance after visit to Iraq

Obama is saying the same thing, just rewording it differently

We don't trust Obama. We voted Clinton in the primaries because we did not know much about Obama. Now we know A LOT about him, we will vote McCain.

NOOBAMA

The Republicans, and NeoCons, can't tell that lie, often enough!! They know that, that is the issue that is going to sink their Swift-Boat!! Senator Obama is not like Senator " Questionable Conduct " McCain, of the " Keating Five ", Senator Obama will not back-track on his stance on the Disaster in Baghdad !! He will, as he rightly points out, begin the withdrawal of our troops, as long as this withdrawal will not put their lives in danger !! I know, that is music to our ears, as it is to our Armed Forces' and their families' ears !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Of course obama changed his position. The primaries are over, now time to swiftly move to the center. lol. i mean what was his position anyway? Run like hell from iraq and hope the bad guys don't take over? lol. Welcome to reality. And welcome to President McCain.

Barack Obama has not adopted McCain's policy of and ENDLESS WAR! Obama is just being more specific now. I always was a little worried about his stance of removing troops out in 16 months. However, I trusted his judgment and just knew he had common sense to know that you have to look at the facts on the ground. I was vehemently against this war from the start, but i still want it ended responsibly. Barack has always said we would be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in ,and I am glad he has refined what he meant by that. People are trying to make this a flip-flop. He's just being more specific that it all. Hello people! Just because you set a goal, does not,mean you will be able to achieve exactly the way you wanted too.

Obama '08.

McSame's camp is just trying to gain some traction and news media!

Go Bam! Stay focus and don't play their game! They are trying to keep the media from talking about McSame's shake up!

Obviously, the media is not doing it's job if Mccain and Obama are almost even on a flip-flopping poll. To go back on Public financing just makes common sense when you are the unknown candidate and 10% of americans still think you are a muslim. Obama needs the extra money to introduce him self to the voting public. To say tax cut for the wealthy offend your conscience and then change your mind about your conscience is a character issue. Obama changes in position are minuscule in compared to McCain. Even if you think Obama flip-flops you can only point to a couple things.On the other hand:

MCcain flip-flops:
*flip-flopped on finance reform during the primary
*Bush tax cuts for the wealthy
*would vote against McCain-Feingold immigration bill(yes McCain as in John McCain)
*would stay in Iraq 100 years, changed to would be out by 2013
*against offshore drilling , for offshore drilling
* called the religious right, agents of intolerance,then asks for there endorsement, and then rejected there endorsements
*attacked Obama for be willing to meet with our enemies, yet he said , in 2006 on video we should be willing to engage Hamas
*there is the thing about caring for the environment, yet saying we need more nuclear plants and need to drill off shore. (I know if it qualifies as a flip-flop but it sure is contradictory.

He denies a change because there was ummm, No Change!! A stupid CNN story by Jessica Yellin does not a change make. Wow CNN get some real news. How about some investigative journalism about how lunatic Bush plans to attack Iran and start World War Three!

President Obama is a change I can believe in. He will get our troops home sooner then McCain would. Nuff said

Aren't we entitled to review our position on any matter as circumstaces dictates? Senator Obama is not stone or concrete and therefore the journalists should not persist their questioning him as though he is a "GOD" and can predict or dictate the future with absolute certainty.

He is only HUMAN and should be seen and regarded as such.!!!!!!!!!

Mission was accomplished in Iraq nearly 2 years ago, so why can't the troops be withdrawn?????? or is the mission still uncertain and unknown by the prosecutors' of the unjust war?

The line of questioning Senator Obama seem too judgemental.

I look forward to Senator Barak Obama becoming the next President of the United States of America.

Harry
Kingston, Jamaica

Well here we go already. The ol' Democratic FLIP FLOP.

Stand around, tell everyone what they want to hear, but when the rubber hits the road, fail to "walk the talk".

Obama, you have nice dreams, but you don't know how to execute.

……… Where is John McC's FLAG PIN….?????

OBAMA ISA BIG FLIP FLOPPER. HRC WAS THE ONLY REALISTIC CANIDATE THAT WAS RUNNING. AMERICA GETS WHAT THEY ASK FOR.

CNN should be able to pull up any of his countless town halls and realize that he said nothing different today than he has said for his entire campaign. This is an obvious attempt by McCain to play with the media and you have let them.

Remember reverend Wright , this is not the man I knew 20 years ago, Obamy will go around, dance around depends of the circomstances, all for his own political gain.

The media is a bunch of stupid crows. Cawing on and on that Obama changed his position in Iraq when in fact he said the same thing in the primary debates. Obama's mission in Iraq is and always has been to have us out in 16 months. He said so.. over and over.. to the cawing media crows today.
Nothing is 100%. Only death. At some point… if our troops lives are in danger and Obama needs to slow withdraw until the hot spot is put out… he would consider it. It might take a few extra months. The mission is 16 months… but that is based on our troops being able to get out safely. It could take 20 months to fully withdraw safely.

Now, McCain said today that his position is the same as Obama's.
That's Huge news. That means McCain's mission is to withdraw our troops in 16 months. Why don't you media crows caw about that?

And please don't delete my reply's.

Republicans have flooded the airwaves with this stuff and the press was all too willing to fall for it. I dare republicans to prove this is a flip flop.

Your coverage and space alloctated to Senator McCain continues to be biased in favor of Senator Obama.

If you are his suraget, just tell your viewers and we will drive on.

Why can't you just report the News and leave your spin in the rest room.

I have been a long time fan of CNN but since you have gone to the extreme and adopted an agenda that is so anti McCain you will lose me.

Charles Stewart

I'm starting to HATE the spin! The coverage lately has been gossip news - like the Enquirer!

- Fist bump snub - Media screw up as there was no snub
- Clark "attacking" McCain record - Spin Spin, he never attacked McCains record
- "Refine" - apparently means "new direction" to media/McCain

There's a dozen more…

Obama's "change we can believe in" must have meant that he can "change" his mind whenever politically expedient. Maybe now all his supporters will see him "change" his most vital promise, to withdraw all the troops within a year…what a joke!

Too bad Bozo the Clown died today, otherwise he would have a fun day with this character!!! How many times have we heard Obama back track to explain what he meant, or what he should have said, or what he could have said more clearly!!!!! It is truely pathetic!

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He's a liar. He never said that until today… Gobble it up dummies…
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Here we go again! Barack Obama is once again trying to have both sides of an issue. What does he really believe? He never talks about the disaster that would take place if we withdraw now. Here's the way I see happening. Once our troops withdraw prematurely the Mahdi militia would start a new round of revenge violence, which would in turn cause the sunni to retaliate and onward to total civil war.
Once that happens the Kurds will demand their own country which will draw Turkey to get involved. And just like the Syrians did in Lebanon, Iran will take it upon themselves to occupy Iraq to "stabalize the country!" And you think oil is high now?
We are getting close to acheiving our goals and the Iraqies themselves are finally beginning to see that their furure doesn't have to look so bleak. Why would you pull the rug from under their feet when things are changing for the better. Nobody said it was going to be easy. As a matter of fact, they told us it wasn't going to be easy. But it almost looks like the Democrats want this democracy in the Middle east to fail for their own political gains regardless of the sacrifies of our soldiers and their families, and particually the Iraqi people themselves. You think the Arabs hate us now? Watch if we leave prematurely.

John McCain is an idiot my friends.

Wow, scrambling twice in one day. Usually Obama's flip-flopping and double speak doesnt get any attention.

OBAMA = SOCIALISM

Senator Obama has backed out from reopening NAFTA saying now that NAFTA after all is not so bad as he thought. Now he is changing his position on withdrawal of troops as against the wishes of the people of America.Come november, the situ in Iraq will be as good as what George predicted. War in Iraq was started with oil at the back of their minds and they found Saddam Hussain a scape goat to achieve their aims When the oil price sky rockets around November, people will realise that what Bush aimed is correct as they will have Soudi Arabia & Iraq to supply oil at US terms. Columbian govt.has left out the current President George Bush & Senator Obama but confided to Mr.McCain about the rescue mission to be conducted against the Columbian rebels. This is a sign of coinfidence that south/central Americans have for senator McCain. Coming colors are not so good for Senator Obama and the results in November may not be the same as people think right now.

Obama critics,

If you want to condemn Obama for changing his position on Iraq, at least wait until he actually changes position.

In Obama's own words from his second new conference today, as reported by Fox News:

"“We are going to try this again apparently I wasn’t clear enough this morning on my position with respect to the war in Iraq. I have said throughout this campaign that this war was ill conceived that it was a strategic blunder and that it needs to come to an end. I have also said that I would be deliberate and careful in how we got out, that I would bring the troops home at a pace of one to two brigades a month and that at that pace we would have our combat troops out in 16 months.

That position has not changed. I have not equivocated on that position. I am not searching for maneuvering room with respect to that position. What I said this morning and what I will repeat because it is consistent with what I have said over the last two years in putting this plan together. I will always listen to the advice of commanders on the ground but that ultimately I am the person making the strategic decisions.

It is my view that strategically that for us to perpetuate this war in Iraq the way that John McCain has proposed and neglect the extraordinary problems that we are seeing in Afghanistan, to continue to spend 10 to 12 billion dollars a month, to continue to put enormous burdens on our military and military families is not the best way to make the American people safe.

So we are going to go visit Iraq. I want to have conversations with commanders on the ground and Iraqi officials. When I come back that information will obviously inform how we shape our plans moving forward. For example, what is the current training situation and how many residual troops might be needed in order to train Iraqis to stand up both the army and the police? What is the current posture in terms of negotiations between the various Iraqi factions on critical issues like how oil is distributed oil revenues are distributed?

But, you know, let me be as clear as I can be. I intend to end this war. My first day in office I will bring the Joint Chiefs of Staff in and I will give them a new mission and that is to end this war responsibly deliberately but decisively."

In other words, what he wants to refine is the manner in which our troops in Iraq will be withdrawn, not whether it will be withdrawn.

ha ha i knew this day would come. he had a strict time table and promise to be out of iraq in six months, but he's back pedaling as we all knew he'd have to if he was going to be honest and realistic. he said that the surge was useless, wasn't working, etc. and that the only way to deal with it was to pull out our troops and make the iraqis deal with it.

at least mccain told us what we didn't want to hear from the get-go. of course obama just lied throughout the primaries in order to get votes from the left, and now he's trying to move to the center to get more votes. sounds like a typical politician to me.

and mccain never said that he doesn't want to be in iraq for 100 years, he was answering someone who asked how long we might be iraq and he said "we might be there for 100 years; we still have troops in korea, and other parts of the world." he didn't say that he wants us to be at war for 100 years. that was a clear distortion by the media and obama.

The press are really very irritating. Mccain's campaign kept whining, he is going to change, he is going to change on Iraq by stating Obama's position as if there was some type of change. And when he says exactly what he has been saying all along, what does the drive by media do???? The jump on it and twist it like never before.

He has not changed his position AT ALL. Look at Meet the Press, look at the Debates.

Unlike McCain who has a 3 page list of flips in the last 4 months and does not even know who is in what country.

This is amazing. It's a good thing by the polls, the american people do not care about flip flops because if they did McCain would be in grave trouble: CNN Poll: who has flip flopped: McCain 67% Obama 59% Who has the higher favorability ratings: Obama 63% McCain 59%

No problem here folks: just move along.

i love watching obama crumble under his own lies and public manipulation. (oh, but of course he's just pointing the finger at mccain's camp, saying that their telling lies).

it also nice to see how he's taken mccain's advice and is going to iraq.

McCain's people calling Obama a flip-flopper has to be one for the Pot-Kettle Hall of Fame.

And yeah, I know how the PUMA folks will spin this. Being that this crowd is entirely made up of a) members of Operation Chaos and b) Hillary "supporters" who think that hurt feelings are more important than issues, I can't say that I put much stock in what they say.

Who knows? Once he realizes that the al-Maliki government is a puppet of Iran (Why else do you think we have to keep the forces we trained and equiped under observation by our spy satlelites?) he may want to pull all troops out immediately so as not to waste any more blood and treasure on the "success" that strengthens Iran. Could happen.

He took one position to campaign against Senator Clinton. NOW, he is taking another position to campaign against Senator McCain.

Flip-flop might be too kind - he is a TYPICAL POLITICIAN! The very thing he claimed not to be.

Are more of his followers less blinded now by his empty words? If not, you have several more months to see him in his true light before the election. Too bad it did not happen in time to make Senator Clinton the nominee so the Democrats could win in November.

Democrats for McCain - Just Say No Deal!

Go Obama!

So whats her name comes on and says: this is Cnn no bias no BULL, ha no more has she said this she goes off with some "catchy" (not) headline about Mr. Obama coming out to express himself more clearly. Aparently CNN the whole misrable crew at CNn only hears what it wants to hear, and that is this negative s… they run on all day long. Well, I only want to hear positive (in the words of Harv Ecker: if you are going to be negative don't stand next to me), so I have this remote in my hand, that only wants me to turn onto positive rational smart thoughts, so I tune you out CNN you are too negative for my remote and me.
If you want to be ubbiased then dammet be it

Mr. Obama, you rock.

now he has the exact same policy in Iraq as McCain. Hmmm, who would be best suited, the inexperienced newcomer or the experienced oldie. I'd go with oldie

Mc.shame you suck

Senator Obama,

do whatever it takes to get elected.

then we'll kick the neo-cons, corpocons, and AIPAC out of washington into the prison.

once and for all.

love this brothers swagger

I guess the media, RNC and the ignorant opponents of Obama cannot articulate an explained statement… Surprised to see the number of dummies floating around.

More "rhetoric" from the typical politician to get votes from whoever he can get. If you go back and take a look at what he said in the beginning and what he is saying now…. you will find very different comments…. voters beware!!!!

Obama shouldn't have to apologize for having a nuanced and responsible position. Not every solution is simple!

What a joke. Does he not realize we can look at past clips of him saying the war would be over by 2009.

Does BO knows how to withdraw the troops from Iraq.???? Maybe he is flip flopping because he doesn't know how!!!!! The DNC sure did pick a looser for this election and we, the American people are going to pay the price.

I will have to reconsider giving my vote to him, I thought he was different and was bringing "change" but I see that the "saga" will continue……………..

So the republicans start a rumor, throw it out there, and now the media is insisting on it without proof? It's all journalism.

why is this so difficult for the media to understand? what are you people dense or something?

re-evaluating the time line because of changes does not mean obama wants to all of a sudden stay the course. a timely withdraw is what we will get with obama, period. changes on the ground will change the strategy of the withdraw, but a withdraw it will still be.

The notion that the surge has worked is complete falsehood. The man responsible for the success in less US troops being killed isn't even a US citizen. Al-Sadr and his Medhi army have had a cease fire arrangement which has lead to a dramatic drop-off in bombings. That cease fire is slated to end when he forms his new militia, then the surge will unfortunately fail. We need to get out of this civil war and let them fight amongst themselves. Maybe then we can get back to taking care of our own country!

i dont think obama had changed his iraq policy but i think if reporters are not smart enough to see whats going we will be in the same bush mess again were reporters took us to war for no reason i dont know why then dont learn from mistakesm obama said he would refine his iraq policy, refne means remove unwanted substance, improve something, so did it occur to reporters that he meant pulling our troops, since everybody is saying they is progrss, so if they is progress why keep our troops for 100 years instead of focusing on afganistan i think reporters should be smart to look in the dictionary if they dont understand some of these words, dont run with a story simple because another campaign is pushing it before you gather the right information this is why we are paying $4.90 at the pump because you all took us to this war listening to push and his people and this is what mccbush is doing now, american people want journalist that are smart please stop this kind of press we are sick and tired of it , washington post, huffington post, msnbc, do your job and think before you put something out use your common sense thats why you are journalist SO DISSAPOINTED WITH HOW THE MEDIA TOOK US TO WAR

This is something he has been saying for months. In the last debate he said the same thing yet no one said anything about it until McCain and his people needed to find a reason to get the focus off the fact that he is running all over Columbia and Mexico promising more jobs there and pushing free trade like it is going to make the US more prosperous.

Is it just me, or do the media seem bent on misunderstanding Obama's position in this case in order to fan the flames of a false controversy? I'm truthfully concerned for the mental health of these block-headed reporters who seem determined to get this story so woefully wrong. My primary concern is the amateurish quality of reporting of Obama's statements today being largely infected by questions based upon misperceptions fed to them by those whose profession it is to instill doubt about Obama. Are these reporters for CNN and these other "News Organizations" so easily manipulated? Are they really this dumb, or just hard up for any controversy, manufactured or otherwise, that they can feed upon?

A RANK AMATEUR PLAYING WITH HUMAN LIVES!!

AGAIN, WHY SHOULD OBAMA CHANGE HIS STANCE ON WITHDRAWAL FROM IRAQ. IF THINGS ARE GOING SO GREAT THERE NOW AS MCCAIN AND BUSH SAY, THERE IS NO NEED TO CHANGE, THE ONLY THING LEFT IS WITHDRAWAL. IT DOESN'T TAKE A GENIUS TO FIGURE OUT THIS IS NO MULTIPLE CHOICE QUESTION, IT JUST PUTS A NAIL IN THE COFFIN THAT MCCAIN AND BUSH'S FAILED POLICY HAD NO PLAN. THINK ABOUT IT.

I think people who don't like Obama even if you read what he said to this people a million times they will not understand cause they are so busy with hate. A reasonable person will look at things even if you have to quit a job you have to look for options first then quit the people saying he is flip floping are the ones who quit there jobs and live off there mom and dad with no shame cause the are slow to understand in life the people who make it are the smart ones.

Hello American People!!!

Once again, Obama is demonstrating that he is not the "agent of change" but the changing agent……………………

God Blessd America!!!

WELL HE BETTER CHANGE HIS STANCE UNLESS HE WANTS THE ARABS HERE MUCH SOONER THAN THEY HAVE PLANNED. THEY'RE RUBBING THEIR PALMS TOGETHER AND LAUGHING THAT THE STUPID INFIDELS WILL ELECT THIS MUSLIM TO THE HIGHEST OFFICE OF THE LAND. HOW CAN AMERICANS BE SO IGNORANT AS TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. PLEASE LORD BE WITH US BECAUSE THE ARABS WON'T WHEN THEY BEHEAD THE MEN AND STONE TO DEATH OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN. SAY NO TO OBAMA, NOW.

McFlipFlop divorced his first wife because she lost her glamour in a car accident. He committed adultery and married Cindy just one month after the divorce. HE denies the economy is in trouble. He flips on his rejction of the Bush tax cuts. Heck he flips on his own immigration bill. He left the Gallaudet University Board of Trustees when they were not intimidated by his temper. He grabs an opponebt by th eneck while on a diplomatic missions. Could Obama ever say anything that would make him worse than McFLip Flop.

Ah, but the devil is in the vocabulary… note that he always emphasizes 'combat' troops. What he doesn't tell you (but you can read in the small print of his plan actually) is that even with the 'complete withdrawal of all combat troops' we'd still have tens of thousands of US military/service personel left in harms way in Iraq.

He calls it 'withdrawal.' I call it deceptive political ploy.

I'm voting for Obama no matter what!
HE is better than McCain! Or Everything!
The Repulselicans want 4 more years of the last 8 …Please!
Obama can flip, flop, pulsate, pop-lock, skip, dance , peddle, swim, moonwalk…I'm voting for him! Period. Full Stop!

To vote McCain is the continuation of Bush!

Barack is inexperienced and he has no foreign policy. He does not know how to manage our great country. He is a joke.

I find a lot of peoples comments laughable…

So let me guess, it's a bad thing to have a president that thinks rationally?…Analyzing the situation before he makes a judgement?…Compared to Bush's "Stay the Course" policy that is obviously what McCain is picking up…95% of the time McCain has agreed with bush for voting in congress, he says we will stay in Iraq for 100 years and that "I will never surrender in Iraq my friends, I will never surrender"…This is the same stubbornness that I've seen for the past 8 years from Bush…

I'm just amazed at how close the polls are, I guess a large portion of Americans really are ignorant considering other nations are praising and displaying their support for Obama…and calling us imbeciles if we don't choose him….The falling standards of the US is definitely not just in jobs, but it seems in rational/logical thought and intelligence as well…America has officially become a dumb puppy.

Clinton/McCain -

Ditto for the fact that there are clips of Barack saying that he will carefully get the troops out after laying out his plan to the military commanders and finding out what the situation is on the ground. Heck, I listened to one on my way home from work. It was from the last debate with Hillary.

This is called selective hearing and reading and only responding to what you read today instead of actually listening to the actual candidates.

Don't worry Barack. Americans know how the Republicans/Gop work. We WON'T fall for it. VOTE BARACK OBAMA NOVEMBER 4.

Seriously considering changing my middle name - Sen Obama is a God-send 1) read: his books to understand the moral fiber that makes up this tremendous person 2) pray: for his continued insight, vision, and fortitude 3) believe: he will change how we govern and how positively we are perceived world wide - thanks for listening

He is such a liar. That is more flip flopping of his mouth. Perhaps he should take some time keeping his mouth shut and listen and think more.

Good… I like it. But I suggest to Obama to divert troops to Afghanistan and northern Pakistan to take out our REAL enemies, (bin Laden and the Taliban to name a few.) Does he have that in mind? Just a suggestion…

As far as I'm concerned, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

Obama '08

Obama CLEARLY stated that his position has not changed and it HAS NOT, if any of you haters had a clue about what he has said since the start of this campaign you would know that what he said today is the same as 16 months ago…

Why doesn't the media, the fake-o-crats (you know who you are… puma, and the rest of you Bush loving fools take a moment to verify your facts before spouting off as usual.

mccain and cnn do not think for me . i think for myself and i know what he said and he has not changed and i am still voting for obama.

For each of you saying Obama hasn't changed his position I ask you to remember how he mocked Hillary. Obama said her Iraq position of having a measured safe withdraw by not committing to a specific timeline was wrong. Seems he now is saying Hillary was right, and he was wrong. Face it folks you were blinded by his rock star show ignoring his inexperience and his past relationships. Each of you kept giving him the benefit of the doubt, just like so many did for Bush and look where that got us.

Just say no deal. NObama!

Obama is nothing but smoke and mirrors and people actually fall for it! It really makes me wonder about the future of our country.

Obama did not change his stance. This war, that GB started, is going to be tricky to extricate ourselves from. We, the US, destabilized the country of Iraq with our military intervention in a country that did not need our help. Now, if we leave too soon, you can bet that the extremists will attack the US again. In a way we killed the only person that could help us get out of Iraq - Saddam. At least he could control half of the population, those that were loyal to him. Now we have no one person in the country that can control a significant portion of the population. Thanks Bush. There is no military solution for Iraq, we cannot beat the people into submission. Think about it, would other countries be able to come into the united states and take over like we have done in Iraq without the people protesting? Hell no! The solution is going to involve getting the sides to talk and agree on a cease fire. I think that Obama can do that because he understands the value of talking as opposed to shooting from the hip.

The media seems to spin words to keep their ratings alive.

Obama has not changed his poistion on this issue. He is the candidate in this election that will end the war in Iraq that should have never been started in the first place.

Obama had not changed his Iraq policy.
The big culprit are MSM and Mcsame camp who misrepresented his earlier statements.
American press is looking very ridiculous this early in the election circle.
They should just go and find another profession that represent this new low in reporting.

Changing your mind should be a welcoming relief for this country, especially when it is about facts and substance. When someone has new information that the public is not privy too, it is extremely important to act accordingly . A smart leader knows when to rethink a serious situation as new development becomes available. If it is in the best interest for this country, then I applaude him. Mr. Obama has done just that while others are ready to rush and condemn. I'm sure Mr. Mccain has changed his mind quite a few times as well.

Think of something else, please.

Mccain Is A Lair! Obama Is Honest! Mccain Flips And Flops! Obama Doesnt! Mccain Lacks Judgement! Obama Shows Good Judgement! Mccain Has Nothing! Obama Has It All!

Superdelagets — you asked for him now you got him… BRING HILLARY BACK TO THE RACE>>>>>>

soon everyone will realize that this guy is an empty suit…just do some research..the guy is a socialist and has no clue what to do with regard to foreign policy…just go to youtube and type in 'obama socialist' and you will see a clip from a debate where he says he's for raising the capital gains tax…in the same clip the moderator reminds him that, in fact, when the tax is lowered the government brings in more revenue than when it is higher…he says something along the lines of, you have to do what's fair…funny…not only is he confused about this basic concept he thinks its fair to tax at a higher rate and make less money off of the tax!!…and this guy has a good strategy for iraq??? priceless…besides, iraq is going much better now that's why you don't hear about it on the news anymore…wake up people..the guy is nothing more than a good speaker…

anyone but obama in 08

Obama has already changed his stance on Iraq multiple times. He's even voted one way while claiming he voted another. The upshot is we cannot believe one word that comes out of his mouth. Just looks at the false claims in his latest ad on factcheck.org.

100 years war is not sustainable.

Obama will bring political stability in the Middle East and bring back the troops with victory.

History in the making!

Obama 08 & 12.

WRONG! Throughout the primaries, Obama said "immediate withdrawal" from Iraq. Now he lies again. Obama, quite simply, lies all the time!

This article absolutely DISGUSTS me. Reporters ask him if he will be out in 16 months; he answers that as president he plans to have troops out in 16 months; yet CNN reports that he "did not answer the question directly?" What is WRONG with you people?

Watch any of the previous debates, and you will hear Obama saying time and again that he would be as CAREFUL bringing troops out as Bush was CARELESS sending them in. This is EXACTLY what he has said from day one.

It's not flip-flopping to say that he will evaluate the situation carefully and make necessary adjustments; it's intelligence that our current president and McCain are completely lacking. Bush will stubbornly refuse to make ANY changes no matter WHAT happens because he can't handle being wrong. To all the people who wrote these comments - are you really such uneducated sheep? Can't anyone read an article and sift through it applying their own common sense and intelligence, rather than just absorbing it as 100% fact? This country is filled with ignorant, blind followers and it is really disturbing.

If we have 1/4 of the troops we have now in Iraq by the end of Obama's 1st term, that's good enough for me.

It's far better than the alternative with McCain's Stay the course, Mission Accomplished, the Surge is working, or what other failed empty slogan he's going to come up with. After 4 years of McCain, we'll have a 12 to 13 trillion national debt, and we're still going to have roughly the same number of troops in Iraq and he's going to still say "we're winning in Iraq" with zero signs of withdrawing our troops.

So Obama is willing to decide his position after going there? What about the intelligence reports? Does he really need to see it with his own eyes? Glad to see he can't make up his mind, unless it polls well.

Obama , we are with you. We know who is the flap-flopper and find no
issue to talk about.

To peakarach:

You haven't done your homework. Google " the real McCain" and you will see everything you posted describes… McCain!
And you can add, an evil little warmonger too!

I am so sick of theses people being so negitive about Obama. Look, we have seen what the Redubyacans can do. They had controle for the past 8 years and have stunk the country up. Now they want to blame it on the Dems because we have had the congress for 2 years. Well, it take more then 2 years to fix anything when everything is broken. And the History I mean Hillary fans are just a sad sack of political suckers moving to the right to spite themselves! Get a grip, Go Obama or stay at home.

Like I said before,..He is a politician saying what he has to say to get elected…..Is that so wrong?

I find it appalling that the MSM continually reports false news about Sen. Obama. Do they not recall "We will be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in"?? How many times did Sen. Obama repeat this phrase during the 23 primary debates? As Commander in Chief he will set the mission and the mission is withdrawal from Iraq - there has been no shift to the centre !

At this point, does anyone know where Obama stands on the issues?

I hope you people who voted for him get your free college education…hahahahahaha….like that's going to happen….Your money is going to fund Rev Wright's church.

Still 4 Hill, but voting McCain

OBAMA HAS BEEN SAY THE SAME THING FOR THE LAST YEAR, HE HAS NOT FLIP FLOP ON THIS ISSUE AND STOP HAVING THE MCCAIN CAMP LYING TO THE MEDIA AND STOP PARCING WORDS, ASK McCAIN WHAT IS HE GOING TO DO FOR THIS COUNTRY, HOW ABOUT VALUES AND WHAT HE DID TO HIS FIRST WIFE. ALL McCAIN IS DOING IS COMPLAINING ABOUT OBAMA. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, START TAKING McCAIN TO TASK FOR ALL OF HIS FLIP FLOPS OVER THE LAST 8 YRS.

The longer this race goes, the more we get to know Obama for what he is, the same old politician he ranted about in the primary. The same old politician who panders to the voters. The old politician who tells the voters what they want to hear. His political campaign has been superb — it fooled all those college educated liberals — but he didn't fool the average working American and he is not fooling me. What change is he about? Nothing new from the looks of it, but he is being touted as the only person who can change Washington. Well, I agree he is a person of change — changing his positions. He is now the centrist. Please, who is the real Barack Obama and what are his real core values? Aas a member of a black liberation church for 20 years where hatred and racism were preached by the minister do we really know where Barack stands on that message?

I really feel bad for anyone who is so easily convinced. Use your own head and not paid liars. This is their job and it's hardly their fault some people are so easily fooled. Obama specificly said til this very day that he is still for withdrawing from Iraq in 16 months time. But how would it look if things begin to shape up and it's clear troops would help the situation in Iraq? A good leader isn't stubborn. A good leader is willing to change their policies and politics when change is needed. Obama is only saying at this time he sees no reason to not pull out in 16 months, but it's possible the situation might change in the future.

As for McCain saying troops should stay in Iraq for 100 years? I'm pretty sure that was a mistake. I think he was just emphasizing his point that he will keep troops in Iraq as long as he thinks they need be there. After all, his goal IS to bring all troops home by 2013.

Do you critics actually read anything before you post or do you automatically jump in with Barack insults?

Baracks stance is the same now as it was before. By removing our troops by one to two brigades each month. That'll take about 16 months.

That is exactly the same stance as before. By him stating he may revisit it if the circumstances change is the right thing to do.

Carefully plan withdrawal of troops vs. keeping them there for another 100 years…which one is smarter?

Obama 08

The Repubs on this site know Obama has been consistent. They are just trying to find a way to slam him because they don't have a good candidate in this election.

Don't hate. Just recognize that Obama is the INTELLIGENT choice for 2008.

Obama wasn't so understanding of Hillary's nuanced Iraq stance I don't know why he expects us to treat him any better then he treated her?

Sorry, Barack, but I watched the debate where you said you would remove the troops immediately and within the first 6months.

Stand by your word as you are giving the Republicans attack commercial after attack commercial with your flip flopping. Dont ruin your chances and become a Mondale or a Dukakis in the History books.

Hypocritical McCain supporters (all 3 of them) - you really wanna criticize someone for flip-flopping and taking positions that are politically advantageous - really?? Have you been paying any attention at all to the DOUBLE TALK that your candidate spews on a daily basis????

I never said that I didn't understand the economy?? — COME ON!!

A sign of intelligence is to listen to input from all respected sources and make a decision based on the facts. Barack did not change his long-standing opinion on this matter. The problem with Bush/McCain and the Republican party is that they would rather stay with a failed policy and march 4,000 young Americans to their deaths in war than to admit a mistake and change a course of action. Who would you rather have as President, a person who can't admit that he was wrong or someone like Barack who will work to get it right? We don't need four more years of the failed policies that we now have? People, let's get real, too much is at stake.

Where's the story?

It sounds like he's saying what he's always said.

The McCain camp is trying to make something out of nothing because that's what Republicans have to run on in 2008 - NOTHING.

Excuse me! WHAT DEFINITE PLAN does Obama have for "getting out of Iraq"? I'd love to know!

i think that thats a great decision on obamas part unlike mccain remember what he said i do IRAQ 100 YEARS I WILL NEVER SURRENDER IN IRAQ MY FRIENDS IT NOT IMPORTANT WHEN THE TROOPS COME HOME JUST AS LONG THEIR NOT IN HARMS WAY there you have it mccains words at least obama is more sensible and responsible unlike mccain that would leave them there for a 100 years!!!

Not exactly the safe haven and feel good zone of the south side of Chicago, is it Barack? You're in the realm where men have to make life and death decisions daily affecting our men and women in uniform and keep people working in order to feed their families and pay they mortgages; not for a few thousand people in a city district, but for millions of Americans across the land. People are beginning to tire of your flip-flop promises. Come on back home to Chicago and let the good people of this nation get on to choosing a real man who can handle the pressure and stress of the Presidency; John McCain. Afterall, he's been in this national arena since 1982. You; well a first term Senator who has served only a half a term isn't exactly a blanket of security that we want protecting our children. Come back to Chicago Barack and all will be forgiven.

Americans have to start listening to WHAT Obama says. Do not listen to how McCain and the MSM twist it. Neither one have much else to do.

Your presentation of this story has been very disapointing. No, not just because I'm an Obama supporter. It's more than that. Because CNN has covered his position on the Iraq War so repeatedly during the primary even McCain supporters should be able to repeat it…correctly. It's a shame that a candidate has to give another press conference because CNN and other news organizations sensationalize the news to keep an audience focused and theirby keep their ratings up. Insulting, respect your audience. We know it's difficult right now during this "in between" time of the election cycle but give us more substance and facts! We demand consistent substantative reporting for both candidates.

Obama is pushing for a change in policy that will make us safer because we'll be able to focus on Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. McCain still hasn't come up with a workable plan. There's no way we can occupy Iraq for 100 years like McCain wants.

Obama has been clear on this from the beginning. If it's news to anybody, they must have not been paying attention.

Reading some of the responses on here makes me think we need to require an IQ test before allowing people to vote. You people act like a bunch of crybabies. Stop and think once in a while. The elections are not about who you "feel" will be the best president. I'm so sick of all this emotional nonsense that has taken over our elections. What happened to intellectual ideas? Obama is a smart respectable guy, and so is McCain. If we would stop and listen to what they really have to say all of this name calling wouldn’t be necessary.

people he did NOT change his position at all…my God reading some of these stupid @$$ post..it is no wonder Bush served two…(3 if McCain gets in) terms… DUMPMCCAIN.COM

John McCain won't have a hard time explaining how he is willing to maintain a presence in Iraq for another 50 years or so. It's simply called "national security" something Obama knows nothing about.

Farrell, Bush's policy hasn't failed. You still aren't bowing to Allah are you? The only thing that is failing is the media getting the truth out about the success in Iraq. A victory in Iraq sure would make the democrats unhappy.

Obama's way over his head, and he ran too soon (maybe 8 years in the U.S. Senate would have given him "perspective." because he obviously has none right now). Obama promises everything to everyone. GIMME, GIMME, Obama! Barack, be sure to line the U.S. streets with gold, so we can afford all of your "impossible" dreams. I think slowly but surely America is beginning to understand — it's sort of a gut feeling — that something is just not quite right with him when it comes to reality.

What we have here is an individual who is being controlled by "the party" and by all the inside politics none of us are privy to. Your knight in shining armor is turning out to be just one of the good ole boys.

Do you people even READ. He has NEVER changed his position. I've listened to alot of townhall meetings and seen every debate. He hasn't changed anything. I've heard him say the same thing he said in this article at least 6 or 7 times.

You people just love being spoon feed crap by the MSM don't you. That's exactly why we've got your hero Bush. Now, you just sit back and say come on MSM and McLame tell me what to believe. I promise I won't question it. That would require a few more brain cells.

Talk about drinking the Kool-Aid!!!!

CNN…why ids it you don't post real comment about McCain? why is it you close comments relating to McCain and leave them open for Obama? are you really objective?

DUMPMCCAIN.COM

I am really confused what everyone is talking about.. That really is exactly what he has been saying all along. It has always been one to two brigades a month.. so what is everyone whining about?

Lt for Obama,

Exactly!

100% right!

Its because the language he used in the morning speech was very reminiscent of Hillary's position in the primary (which Obama tore into her for).

When he was the underdog he promised to run a publicly financed campaign. Now that he is the heavyweight he changes his mind claiming he needs the 1/4 billion to fight republican pac's and 527's (even though democratic pac's and 527's outspend the republicans by 10 to 1).

He blasted NAFTA as the scourge of the midwest but now its not so bad.

He claims to not take money from lobbyists but takes regular max donations from their spouses. (Last count I saw McCain Lobbyist money was approx 650k Obama 425k).

Also someone commented on McCain's travel. You do realize he is the chairman and highest ranking member on the armed forces committee. So you want to blast McCain for doing his job but its OK that Obama has done nothing as the head of a committee for our policies in Afghanistan. Columbia and Mexico are important allies.

But what would I know, Im just an intelligent, socially liberal, fiscally conservative voter that actually reads.

All you right-wing dittodork nut jobs, GET A LIFE! You know your candidate McSame represents just four more years of a polilcy that bankrupt America and made us less safe. So instead of getting with the Obama program for change, you make up stuff and think that you are fooling us THINKING folks. Pul-leeze! Obama = get out of Iraq in a responsible manner (whether that be 16 months or 20 months - who cares!. McSame = stay indefinitely up to 100 years! And you right-wingers clutch at straws! no-one is going to change their vote for Obama if he takes a month or two longer to get out of Iraq.

After all that BS about Wes Clark insulting McSame. if you bothered to read or listen to his comments, you would see that he actually praised McSame as a war hero. You've got NOOTHING, so you twist words, make stuff up and pray that the rest of us will be fooled into electing a grumpy old man for 4 more years of failed policies. Give us all a break!

All you right-wing dittodork nut jobs, GET A LIFE! You know your candidate McSame represents just four more years of a polilcy that bankrupt America and made us less safe. So instead of getting with the Obama program for change, you make up stuff and think that you are fooling us THINKING folks. Pul-leeze! Obama = get out of Iraq in a responsible manner (whether that be 16 months or 20 months - who cares!. McSame = stay indefinitely up to 100 years! And you right-wingers clutch at straws! no-one is going to change their vote for Obama if he takes a month or two longer to get out of Iraq.

After all that BS about Wes Clark insulting McSame. if you bothered to read or listen to his comments, you would see that he actually praised McSame as a war hero. You've got NOOTHING, so you twist words, make stuff up and pray that the rest of us will be fooled into electing a grumpy old man for 4 more years of failed policies. Give us all a break!

yea obama never changed his stance for he is to end war mccain isnt and obama is trying get ll imfo he needs so he can wthdrawl so this shows good judgment

Yes, Senator Obama — do whatever it takes to get elected. Who cares about truth?

Let's hear it for a candidate who desires strategic flexibility. All along he has said we must be as careful getting out as we were careless going in. Our country is so fed up with inflexible dogmatic insanity.

Considering Obama has been lauded as this great orator and communicator , it is laughable that he always has to come back and explain what he really meant to say.
Wake up America , this man is a fake and has you all duped.

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Obama makes John Kerry look like a straight shooter.

In 2005, he called for a phased withdrawal of our troops

So how exactly is he flip flopping?????
Come on Repubby Lie machine….

Why are we even in Iraq Again?
WMD….. oh wait to free Iraqi's from Saddam….. Oh Wait to let them vote in a Democracy…. Oh wait to stabilize (torture) the country….. Oh Wait, we NEED permanent bases over there now even if the Iraqi's don't agree to them….. Oh wait we have to un-nationalize the Oil over there and give them to OUR favorite oil companies…